Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP

According to a new poll cited by CNN, a majority of Democrats believe that Barack Obama should select Hillary Clinton as his running mate.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A majority of Democrats think Barack Obama should select Hillary Clinton as his running mate, according to a new national poll.

Most Democrats think Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, seen in a 2006 photo, should share the ticket.

Fifty-four percent of registered Democrats questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Friday think Obama should name his rival as his running mate; 43 percent disagreed.

The poll is the first national survey conducted since Obama claimed the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday night, at the end of the primary season. Clinton is expected to announce Saturday that she's suspending her campaign and backing her Senate colleague.

And the article made clear that Barack Obama, who already has strong support from men, would really help his chances in November with women:

Men and women don't see eye-to-eye on the question. Sixty percent of Democratic women said Clinton should be Obama's running mate, but only 46 percent of male Democrats agreed, while 51 percent of them said no.

" 'What do women want?' Sigmund Freud famously asked," said Bill Schneider, CNN senior political analyst. "The answer appears to be Clinton on the ticket. It's pretty clear that many Democratic women are miffed and that Obama has to be very careful how he deals with Sen. Clinton."(snip)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/06/p oll.obama.clinton/index.html#cnnSTCOther 2

If we are to take John Edwards at his word, that he is not interested in the VP slot, then I see no real competition for Senator Clinton.  Bayh and Vilsack are one trick ponies (may help Obama win one state).  Jim Webb has too much alleged sexism in his past (see for one example the Tailhook scandal) to be picked over Hillary Clinton, given the sexism in this campaign and the hard feelings resulting therefrom.  Choosing a woman other than Clinton, would most likely upset Clinton supporters and be seen as a dig at Clinton.

She's got 18,000,000 voters, name recognition, big state carrying potential, and so many other attributes that no other potential running mate has to offer.  So what if diehard Republicans that would never ever vote Democratic will refuse to vote for her?  So what if racists who will never vote for Obama think she killed Vince Foster?  So what if rednecks who think Obama is a secret muslim terrorist, while also being a secret black christian militant, also think Hillary did something wrong during Whitewater?  

Lets forget all the people who would never vote for Obama and are turned off by Hillary, and concentrate on those, such as but certainly not limited to independent women, who are hesitant to vote for Obama, but would be pushed to him if Hillary were his running mate.  



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Tips for putting Florida in play. (2.00 / 3)


My name is Barney Gumble, and I'm an alcoholic. Lisa: This is a girl scouts meeting. Barney: Is it, or is it you girls can't admit that you have a problem?
by PJ Jefferson on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:11:12 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (2.00 / 1)

I am a woman, but apparently I am in the minority.

I believe Obama will make the right decision for his campaign.  Pressure may have the opposite effect from that which you are seeking.


accepting McLettuce is like being 9 years old and forced to eat your own cooking
by Sychotic1 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:12:57 PM EST

I'm not putting on pressure. Just citing a story (2.00 / 1)

on CNN.com.

He can pick whoever he chooses, and I'll most likely vote for him (I've gone from probably not to most likely in a few days, so give me some time).  But he should pick someone who can help him win, and she appears to be the best person for that particular job.


My name is Barney Gumble, and I'm an alcoholic. Lisa: This is a girl scouts meeting. Barney: Is it, or is it you girls can't admit that you have a problem?
by PJ Jefferson on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:18:24 PM EST
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Re: I'm not putting on pressure. Just citing a st (2.00 / 1)

I don't think it is a good idea. As we are starting to see in the polls, dems are coming home after the primaries without Hillary. We need to get those independent voters that Hillary didn't do well among.  

I would definitely like her get some sort of health care czar position.  


by sweet potato pie on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:44:12 PM EST
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to which polls are you referring? (2.00 / 1)

source please.


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:33:07 PM EST
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Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (2.00 / 1)

I would like to see this ticket, but Obama must have the right to choose whomever he wants, and if it is Hillary, then great, but if not, then fine. However, picking any female besides Hillary would be a direct slap in the face to her and her supporters.


by American1989 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:13:10 PM EST

Agreed on all counts. nt (none / 0)


My name is Barney Gumble, and I'm an alcoholic. Lisa: This is a girl scouts meeting. Barney: Is it, or is it you girls can't admit that you have a problem?
by PJ Jefferson on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:18:58 PM EST
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I hate to argue, but (none / 0)

I don't want to fight, and I do agree with most of your sentiment, but I just find so offensive the distillation of the potential VP candidates into their representative sex organs. As if there is nothing to recommend or disrecommend the various VP candidates other than their sexual machinery. The idea that gender should be a disqualifying characteristic I just find so offensive, and yes, ironic.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:44:27 PM EST
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Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

"She has said if Sen. Obama should want her to be vice president and thinks it would be best for the ticket, she will serve, she will accept that. But on the other hand, if he chooses someone else she will work just as hard for the party in November," Schumer told ABC's "Good Morning America."

I assume this to mean male or female, and think she's exactly right.  If Hillary won't take it as a slap in the face, I would certainly hope her supporters wouldn't, either.

Let's not set ourselves up for a needless confrontation in the event he chooses a woman other than Hillary...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24993082/


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:46:52 PM EST
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Wow (none / 0)

Personally, this Clinton supporter thinks that Obama should pick whoever HE wants. Picking a VP seems like an incredibly complex decision, not to be taken lightly at all. IT must be a team that can function in a symbiotic way.

But I have to say... those polls are literally SCREAMING out advice.

The Obama-Clinton ticket doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I think Obama needs to be careful not to pick a VP who seems senior to him. I think he's got to go all-the-way with the message of new-young-hope-change, the same image Clinton-Gore projected in 1992.


"Life is too short, time is too precious, and the stakes are too high to dwell on what might have been." Hillary Rodham Clinton - June 7, 2008
by twinmom on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:22:08 PM EST

Re: Wow (none / 0)

It's the passion right now among supporters. I'm sure those numbers will fall as the summer goes on.


by sweet potato pie on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:44:57 PM EST
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Re: Wow (none / 0)

Wow is right. I think we agree.

I think the decision matrix for choosing a VP is huge, and incredibly complex. I don't expect, and frankly would be disappointed with a quick decision.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:47:35 PM EST
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Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

I'm sure they'll make the pick that they believe, after probably tens of thousands of dollars in research (or more), will maximize their chances of winning in November.  That's the only criterion that I hope they use.


by rfahey22 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:26:08 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

How about picking someone who would be a good President should something happen. I think that's a good criteria too! ;-)


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:46:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

Considering that the presidential campaign season (and the primary for that matter) is rarely a good predictor of good or bad presidencies, picking a VP who would be a good President is probably even less likely.

Bush has been a terrible President after running a great (and vicious) campaign against first McCain, and then Gore (and Kerry later).  

Clinton was a good President after running a great stealth/underdog campaign.

Reagan was a terrible President (for everyone but the rich) after winning two landslides and taking states that usually did not go Republican.

Truman was a great President (if a bit ahead of his times) after literally inheriting the job.

But Johnson and Ford were bad Presidents after similarly inheriting.

I am convinced that at this point, there is no real way to predict whether a President will be a good one or a bad one.  I think Obama will be a good one, and I know McCain will be a terrible one.  I think Hillary would be (will be in 8 years?) a good one.

Who, in 1860, would ever have thought that Lincoln would be in the top 5 of all-time Presidential rankings?


by ProgressiveDL on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:55:14 PM EST
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Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

It should be who ever he thinks is best.

Also these polls are right after this tough primary and I am sure a lot of Clinton supporter would like to see this happen. If this poll holds up over the next month or so then he has to give it some serious consideration. Which I am sure he is doing anyway.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:29:29 PM EST

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 I believe that Obama's Veep pick will be every bit as inspired, unexpected, and brilliant as every other decision he's made thus far. To think otherwise would be underestimating him. People who underestimate Obama do so at the certain risk of looking foolish.


by xdem on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:31:29 PM EST

Barack needs time in the spotlight (1.00 / 0)

without a veep.


by catfish2 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:32:36 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (2.00 / 1)

Unless you really want to watch a VP debate where McSame's running mate constantly brings up Clinton saying that Obama is not experienced enough to be Commander in Chief, it is not a good idea. I think a high level cabinet position is a much better fit for Clinton.


Bush murders soldiers for profit. McCain wants to wet his beak.
by awobbly on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:39:35 PM EST

I'm torn (none / 0)

She would be a great choice for VP, or as Sec HHS.  VP would clearly be the best outcome for her, and I think would be a very good choice for him (though this is an inexact science - there might be better choices).   If he doesn't put her on the ticket, then she might be better off staying in the Senate and running again in 2012 or 2016.


by activatedbybush on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:13:33 PM EST
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Re: I'm torn (none / 0)

VP is a stupid job. A talented person like Sen. Clinton deserves a job where she could actually have an impact.


Bush murders soldiers for profit. McCain wants to wet his beak.
by awobbly on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 06:08:18 PM EST
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don't forget she is already poll tested too. (none / 0)

at first i thought this unity ticket was a great idea.  but have since changed my mind.  just as the GOP has already started using HRC clips against BO - they will do the same thing reversed if she was on the ticket.  for example 'she even called for his assassination and show the BO camp memos on it!'

not a good idea.


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:40:03 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

" Jim Webb has too much alleged sexism in his past (see for one example the Tailhook scandal) to be picked over Hillary Clinton, given the sexism in this campaign and the hard feelings resulting therefrom. "

- Thats a whole load of crap , if it is alleged , doesn't make it so.

There is no need to make that comment about Jim Webb.

A man whose gallantry as a marine officer in Vietnam won him a navy cross among other awards and two purple hearts deserves better than that.

He is an American hero , a scholar and a leader and I don't know who has a better resume  than him to be VP.

Plus he would have strong appeal to Reagan democrats , I know i would be thrilled if he was on the ticket.

Virginia women didn't think he was sexist and I don't either.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:40:23 PM EST

Its just a google away, Lori. (none / 0)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathaniel- bach/jim-webbs-baggage_b_103203.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q =Jim+Webb+sexist


My name is Barney Gumble, and I'm an alcoholic. Lisa: This is a girl scouts meeting. Barney: Is it, or is it you girls can't admit that you have a problem?
by PJ Jefferson on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:25:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

And I'm not accusing him of sexism, just pointing (none / 0)

out that others have, and it may be an issue.


My name is Barney Gumble, and I'm an alcoholic. Lisa: This is a girl scouts meeting. Barney: Is it, or is it you girls can't admit that you have a problem?
by PJ Jefferson on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:26:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

That's great, but a sample of poll respondents don't make this decision.

Barack Obama does.


"The world is a mess, and I just need to rule it." -- Dr. Horrible
by BobzCat on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:44:32 PM EST

If we're going to rely on who gets the most votes (1.00 / 0)

 . . . never mind!


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:46:38 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

I'm curious who the 5% are who supported Obama but want HRC to be VP (which is probably what this poll is showing).  One possibility: African-American women.  But who knows?


by IncognitoErgoSum on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:51:46 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems (2.00 / 1)

As a Clinton supporter, this is one argument I will not make at this time, and NOT because I have no opinion on the matter.

I worry that some of her supporters (me included) are over-advocating for her right now, to her detriment.  It's unseemly to put this kind of pressure on the titular nominee, and just about everyone, including Clinton, has said that the decision must be Obama's alone.  

Please, Clinton supporters, let's stand down for a day or two and hear what Hillary has to say tomorrow.


The universe is a casual place, not a suit-and-tie affair.
by mtnspirit on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:54:30 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

I have difficulty understanding why HRC's supporters would want her to have this job.  Its consolation prize aspects--sure that makes a lot of sense.  As VP, though, she'd have to take herself out of the public debate if issues came up which were at all controversial.  Her job would be to make the president look good.  She'd spend most of her time attending ceremonial functions and speaking platitudes  What other job in the federal government is sort of like this?  Being First Lady.  Does she really want to go back to this?  From a certain perspective, I think Obama would be showing her less respect if he tapped her for this job.  


by IncognitoErgoSum on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:00:07 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

That's very nice.  Too bad it does not matter.

Obama picks his VP.  Let him pick.


by rf7777 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:12:41 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (2.00 / 1)

Just as I respected Clinton's need for time to suspend her campaign, I believe the same courtesy should be granted to Obama for his choice of VP....He has a process and recognizes the VP will be his closest advisor, thus he will do this very carefully.

I am sure HRC is on the short list, but she must go through the process just as everyone else has to.


Obama supporter who is damn glad Hillary Clinton is a Democrat!!
by hootie4170 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:13:55 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

Agreed. I do think HRC would be the best VP and unite the party, but it's his decision.


by Chelsea in 2020 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 05:13:15 PM EST
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Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

I'm a Hillary supporter but I'll vote for Obama whoever his running mate is. That said, this is a complete no brainer to most democrats although apparently not to the Clinton haters who really think keeping her off the ticket should be his his biggest priority. In this they are at one with George Will who of course always has the best interests of the democrats at heart.


by ottovbvs on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:17:27 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

I can assure you that George Will is a worthy opponent.  I've got no problem with that man.

In a world full of downright malevolent conservative ideologues, why pick on him?  It wasn't even a nasty column.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:54:14 PM EST
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Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

Well now, isn't that SPECIAL!

Obama won't be bullied by a poll. There are many factors to be considered, not the least the vetting process -- for Hillary and her spouse.


Anybody's vote is worth having. But not everybody's vote is worth campaigning for.
by Freespeechzone on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 05:18:20 PM EST

Re: Poll: Majority of Dems want Hillary as VP (none / 0)

well, I am for Hillary, but I think she does not want to be a VP, she said it many times, and it will be mutually counterproductive for both her and Obama.
I doubt he can win anyway, so why she wants to be the part of the losing ticket in November?
Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 05:29:20 PM EST

Please ..... (none / 0)

as a longtime supporter of both Bill and Hill, do not have her accept 'also ran' just to have a spot.

She has much more ability to acheive her goals for helping America move forward and restore those things that Bush has destroyed by staying in the Senate, hopefully as Majority Leader. She doesn't need the 'trophy' spot on the stage, let some other 'also ran' do that.

I expect that even if offered, she will politely and publically decline, thereby setting to rest the image of her as a power hungry  ..... .


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 06:49:44 PM EST

Obama Supporter for Clinton (none / 0)

If she can be as she was in her speech today.
If Bill can accept someone else being in charge.
She should be the pick.

She is the best candidate for veep out there.
She needs to subvert all the anti-Hillary feelings by being "real' and "accessible" and not come across as a power hungry militant feminist. She met all those criteria today.
It was, ironically, her best moment.

And Obama needs not to be pressured. If he picks her it has to be with the clear indication that he wasn't coerced but rather made the best decision for him and the party.
Keep Bill in the background and working places like West Virginia. Hillary and Barack can personally work well together.

Mark


by markpsf on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 02:14:42 PM EST


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